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　StereoAutoAlign lossless JPEG join?　　 Bill Costa　　 2023年7月27日(木) 4：40 　　　Mail

I use SPM's Lossless Joint/Decompose/Rotation feature to join two out-of-camera L/R JPEG images into a single SBS JPEG. In this way I only need to keep a single file for a given stereo image, without any generational loss.

My question is, using your StereoAutoAlign command line utility, will "Magic Number" rule #5 (no alignment/no color alignment) accomplish the same lossless conversion going from L/R to SBS? How about in the other direction, SBS to L/R?

　　　 Vincent　　 2023年7月14日(金) 20：13 　　 HP　Mail

Hi,

I have a question about the following:
"Customised versions for commercial use are not available."

Does this also extend to the HTML5 web viewer? It seems to be not working, but I would love to use it as a base to create an open source web stereo viewer since there seem to be close to none.

So what license does the HTML/JS code that it uses fall under? The same license?

I will, of course, respect any answer you give.

お手数をおかけしまして申し訳ありません。 Thank you for your time.

　　　 Vincent　　 2023年7月14日(金) 20：17 　　 HP　Mail

I forgot to mention a few things:

- The viewer would be used to display stereoscopic images on a website offering 3D art courses.
- I would contribute any changes and improvements back. (If you decide to offer the web viewer with a cool open-source license, of course this is already automatic!)

　Mac Ventura incompability　　 Fabian Hugo　　 2023年5月4日(木) 20：27 　　 HP　Mail

Hi there,
as advised by the video https://youtu.be/oifIILVPrhc

I tried to make it work several times but it only resulted in the as seen here via Text from Terminal:

"Not enough arguments for option -d. Expected at least 2 but got 1

usage: xattr [-l] [-r] [-s] [-v] [-x] file [file ...]
xattr -p [-l] [-r] [-s] [-v] [-x] attr_name file [file ...]
xattr -w [-r] [-s] [-x] attr_name attr_value file [file ...]
xattr -d [-r] [-s] attr_name file [file ...]
xattr -c [-r] [-s] file [file ...]

The first form lists the names of all xattrs on the given file(s).
The second form (-p) prints the value of the xattr attr_name.
The third form (-w) sets the value of the xattr attr_name to the string attr_value.
The fourth form (-d) deletes the xattr attr_name.
The fifth form (-c) deletes (clears) all xattrs.

options:
-h: print this help
-l: print long format (attr_name: attr_value and hex output has offsets and
ascii representation)
-r: act recursively
-s: act on the symbolic link itself rather than what the link points to
-v: also print filename (automatic with -r and with multiple files)
-x: attr_value is represented as a hex string for input and output
fh@MacBook-Pro ~ %
"
What did I miss? :)

Thanks a lot and best regards

　　　 Masuji Suto　　 2023年7月10日(月) 11：07 　　 HP

A space is required after com.apple.quarantine.

sudo xattr -r -d com.apple.quarantine /Users/iMac .....

　　　 John M. Clement　　 2023年4月29日(土) 2：10 　　　Mail

I had looked at the Custom Card setting before, and it didn't seem right, so looking at it again, it can be adjusted to fit Owl viewers which have a max of 3 in divergence vs the Holmes viewers which have a maximum divergence of 3.5. The one remaining problem is that the title is printed at the bottom, but with the extra room on the side, it is much preferable to print it there the same as a standard Holmes card.

Since it is possible to insert text at the bottom of the image having the card with text at the bottom is redundant. Actually there does not seem to be a fixed standard for cards. Somtimes they have printing on the top, side, or bottom and sometimes all 3, or no printing at all.

Since I assume you use the same code for printing cards, the settings option could just be available on all the other options which would be an easy to implement enhancement. You could also add an option for an Owl viewer with about 2.625 inch spacing (16 mm margins). In either case having the option to set margins would allow for 3D views with very deep backgrounds. Automatic spacing for deep backgrounds would be a fantastic enhancement, but would require linking the card creation to the alignment subroutine and passing back the maximum deviation.

Beyond this, being able to type multiple lines into the title would make the card creation much easier. Having autowrap would be also convenient, but not necessary. Apparently it is possible to make a preview exactly match the output, as I have other editors that do this, and the Windows print preview also does this.

　　　 John M. Clement　　 2023年4月22日(土) 23：09 　　　Mail

The ability to create 3D cards similar to Holmes cards is good, but unfortunately there is another type of stereoscope which poses severe problems when viewing "standard" Holmes cards. The Owl stereoscope is a modern viewer which is affordable compared to the Holmes kits. The standard Holmes stereoscopes have prismatic lenses which bring the 2 views closer together, but the Owl viewer does not have this feature. The earliest cards had a 2.5 inch (63mm) spacing, but the later ones had 3 inch (76mm) spacing. The wider spacing causes many people to see split images in the Owl viewer. The older Brewster viewer also had plain lenses. Owl viewers are sold on Amazon and 3D stores. They are also included with the books by Brian May. The plain lenses also have the added benefit of lower chromatic aberration.

An added option for the Owl viewer with 2.5 inch spacing of the right and left views would be valuable. Since you already have some options for changing some of the sizes on the cards, making all dimensions variable would allow fixing a lot of problems. While I have no problems using the Owl viewers neither my wife or other close friends can use it for viewing "standard" 3 inch Holmes cards.

Another enhancement that would be of great benefit is the ability to have a line around the edge of the printed card. Since they have to be cut apart to fit into various viewers, a line would be very helpful in guiding the cuts. While it is possible to have a background color, that wastes expensive ink in a high resolution ink jet printer. Commercial duplication is cheaper, but they have a dot spacing that is too wide for creating good Holmes cards.

My object is to give family 3D pictures to relative along with inexpensive Owl viewers. This is probably the least expensive way to give them the beautiful 3D images of childhood memories and parents who have passed away.

　　　 John M. Clement　　 2023年4月26日(水) 6：30 　　　Mail

I had looked at the Custom Card setting before, and it didn't seem right, so looking at it again, it can be adjusted to fit Owl viewers which have a max of 3 in divergence vs the Holmes viewers which have a maximum divergence of 3.5. The one remaining problem is that the title is printed at the bottom, but with the extra room on the side, it is much preferable to print it there the same as a standard Holmes card.

Since it is possible to insert text at the bottom of the image having the card with text at the bottom is redundant. Actually there does not seem to be a fixed standard for cards. Somtimes they have printing on the top, side, or bottom and sometimes all 3, or no printing at all.

Since I assume you use the same code for printing cards, the settings option could just be available on all the other options which would be an easy to implement enhancement. You could also add an option for an Owl viewer with about 2.625 inch spacing (16 mm margins). In either case having the option to set margins would allow for 3D views with very deep backgrounds. Automatic spacing for deep backgrounds would be a fantastic enhancement, but would require linking the card creation to the alignment subroutine and passing back the maximum deviation.

Beyond this, being able to type multiple lines into the title would make the card creation much easier. Having autowrap would be also convenient, but not necessary. Apparently it is possible to make a preview exactly match the output, as I have other editors that do this, and the Windows print preview also does this.

　Four problems　　 John M. Clement　　 2023年4月14日(金) 1：47 　　　Mail

There are several problems in the latest 64 bit version.
1. It used to be able to add text to the image, but after a recent Win 11 update, that no longer works
2. The ampersand "&" doesn't reproduce in the title when creating a 3D card. Curiously it did reproduce for text added to the image before the update.
3. The titles on the side of a 3D card are not formatted correctly. When typing in the text the display shows it being correct and fills the available space, but when printing but when printing it overflows the card. This has been a problem in previous versions.
4. When creating a 3D card, if it is saved the saved file does not have the correct image size specification which should be 7 inches width. The directly printed card does have the specification.

　　　 Masuji Suto　　 2023年4月14日(金) 19：13 　　 HP　Mail

1. It works fine on my PC with Win11. I do not know why it does not work on your PC.
2. Certainly "&" is not displayed. I will check later.
3. That problem also exists in Mirosoft Office. Of course, display and printing are two different things and cannot be perfectly matched.
The only way is through trial and error.
4.There is no print size for SPM images. They are simply saved at a resolution determined from the print size that is the set print resolution.

　　　 John M. Clement　　 2023年4月15日(土) 2：46 　　　Mail

The problem with the text not working seems to be intermittent. It works just after SPM is started. But after using it for several pictures it stops working. I will investigate this.

As to the display, the second line works much better than the first one, so maybe the display of the first one could be fixed a bit.

Please set the print width to 7 inches. This makes printing easier because the user does not have to be careful to set the print size every time. This is especially helpful when a series of prints are made one after another. It is an easy enhancement, but I understand bug fixes come first.

　　　 Masuji Suto　　 2023年4月17日(月) 5：45 　　 HP　Mail

I use the add text feature a lot and have never seen such a
problem.
If i can reproduce it at my place, I'll know what the cause is.

I did not understand the first/second line and the 7" thing.

　　　 John M. Clement　　 2023年4月22日(土) 22：39 　　　Mail

By the first line I was referring to the "Title" and by the second line I was referring to the "Description". The inability to reproduce the ampersand in the title is actually an inability to reproduce other special characters. The plus sign "+" also does not reproduce.

　Can SPM compensate white balance dicrepancies?　　 Chris Dainty　　 2023年4月17日(月) 18：09 　　　Mail

Although both my Samsung NX1000s are set the same ("daylight') they give very slightly different jpegs as regards white balance. Is there a simple way to make them the same? (both are acceptable to me).

　　　 Masuji Suto　　 2023年4月18日(火) 5：59 　　 HP　Mail

Menu->Adjust->Auto color Adjustment allows you to match the left and right colors, but is this not good enough?

　　　 Chris Dainty　　 2023年4月22日(土) 3：31 　　　Mail

Thanks Masuji, I will try that, I’m sure it will be good enough!

　Enhancement for automatic 3D display　　 John M. Clement　　 2023年4月15日(土) 3：10 　　　Mail

Some other 3D slide display programs use a suffix at the end of the file name to indicate the format of an image. sView and Tridef use this and there are others that also do this. The most commonly used one is "-LR" to indicate 3D side by side with left image on the L (parallel view). "-RL" indicates 3d cross-eyed view. "-LRQ" indicates parallel with 2X compression in horizontal. "-AB" indicates over under, but there are some other seldom used codes. So would you please consider doing this so that SPM will automatically bring up the picture in correct 3D when started or switching images.

There is another format which has not been coded, namely the old fashioned cards scanned. Adding an extra code such as C for card or H for Holmes could align the image in the plane of the viewing screen. Allowing the printed edges to be seen in addition to the image would be handy as they sometimes give good information. They would look better if duplicated in both L & R eye images.

sView also handles 2D images so when there is no known suffix it displays the whole image. Since SPM can display multiple images sequentially this would also be a good enhancement.

Both sView and Tridef look at 3D metadata, but that is seldom used. There is a 3D metadata Windows program that can display and set it, but not for more than one image at a time, so that is not a feature that is likely to get used.

　　　 Masuji Suto　　 2023年4月17日(月) 5：39 　　 HP　Mail

Thanks for the good suggestions.
I am busy right now and don't know when I will be able to consider it, but I will look into it later.
I never thought about it because I only use LR SBS.

　　　 Jeffrey Horwitz　　 2023年3月6日(月) 6：04 　　　Mail

I downloaded SPM for Mac yesterday, and it seems to work fine. Today I tried to update it from V. 6.20 to V. 6.30 by following the instructions given to replace stphmkrpro_e.exe with the latest version. I went to the SPM for Mac page, and downloaded "StereoPhoto Maker Pro (64bit) Ver6.30a 2992KByte 21/Feb/2023". That gave me this file in my downloads folder: "stphmkrpro_e_630a.zip". When I opened it, it gave me this file: "stphmkrpro_e 2.exe". I then deleted the old "stphmkrpro_.e.exe" (which is 7.4 MB and was modified on Dec. 26, 2023) from the SPM folder, and replaced it with the "stphmkrpro_e 2.exe" file (which is 7.5 MB and was modified on Feb. 21, 2023). Finally, I renamed the "stphmkrpro_e 2.exe" file to "stphmkrpro_.e.exe" in the SPM folder. But when I go to my Applications folder in Finder and get "Info" from the SPM_Mac app, it still shows that it is Version 6.20, even though when I open the SPM folder, it shows the 7.5 MB file, modified on Feb.21, 2023 inside, and NOT the 7.4 MB file, modified on Dec. 26, 2023. So I don't understand why "Info" doesn't show Version 6.30. I don't know if I updated to 6.30 or not, but apparently not. What should I do. I haven't emptied the old file from the trash yet- could that be the problem?

　　　 Bill Costa　　 2023年3月7日(火) 10：46 　　　Mail

A Mac application is actually a directory with a very specific structure and set of support files needed to make it a clickable application. This is called an "application bundle". What you've done is replace one component of that bundle, the SPM executable. But rest of the bundle remains the same. When you use the Finder's "get info" on the app, the version information is coming from some standard parameter file that was created when the original bundle was created. So it is going to show the original version number of the bundle. While you have changed the executable part of the bundle, there is no way for the operating system to know that.

So to confirm which version of the SPM binary you are running, start up the app, then select the menu item "Help --> About...". That will be the executable reporting its own internal version number.

　　　 Masuji Suto　　 2023年3月9日(木) 7：08 　　 HP　Mail

Thank you very much, Bill.
You are right!

　　　 Jeffrey Horwitz　　 2023年3月10日(金) 0：04 　　　Mail

To Bill Costa and Masuji Suto:

Thanks very much. I went to "about", and it says that I now have Version 6:30a, so if I understand you correctly, I did everything correctly and did update the program- is that right?

　　　 Jeffrey Horwitz　　 2023年3月25日(土) 8：08 　　　Mail

To Bill Costa and Masuji Suto:

Thanks very much. I went to "about", and it says that I now have Version 6:30a, so if I understand you correctly, I did everything correctly and did update the program- is that right?

　　　 Jeffrey Horwitz　　 2023年3月25日(土) 23：49 　　　Mail

To Bill Costa and Masuji Suto:

Thanks very much. I went to "about", and it says that I now have Version 6:30a, so if I understand you correctly, I did everything correctly and did update the program- is that right?

　Shortcut for "rotate"　　 Maxime　　 2023年3月24日(金) 6：16 　　　Mail

Hello, thanks for this great software.
I use StereoPhotoMaker on linux with Wine. Unfortunately the "easy adjustment" windows (k shortcut) is very little and dimensions are fixed, so a fullscreen is impossible.
Nice to have : A shortcut to "rotate" picture and see the result on main windows, without use K windows.

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